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>> katherine, chase, jessie, james, grace, em lem ilemilie, jack, noah, caroline, jessica, benjamin, aville, allison. god has called them all home. for those of us who remain let us find the strength to carry on and make our country worthy of their memory. >> this is a fox news alert. it started by shooting his mother four times in the face probably as she slept. >> the female that was found at the secondary scene location in newtown has been positively
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identified as nancy lanza. birth date september 6th, 1960. mer cause of death multiple gun shot wounds and the death has been ruled a homicide. >> then dressed ninja style he took four heavy weapons probable stash of heavy weapons and headed to the local elementary school to ignite his personal holocaust. >> the male subject identified as the shooter of sandy hook elementary school has been positively identified as adam lanza. he resided at that residence. >> i am geraldo rivera report live on the day the president of the united states came to comfort this stricken connecticut community ravrageed by the unprecedented slaughter the state police spokesman confirmed whenever adam lanza's motives the troubled 20-year-old blasted his way into the school intending to butcher as many children as he could. >> the weapons that was utilized most of the time during this
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horrific crime was identified as the bushmaster ar 15 assault type weapon it had high capacity magazines and in addition the subject had a glock 10 millimeter all weapons had multiple magazines and additional ammunition. >> after killing the heroic principal and four others all women who tried to top them or shield the children in their care. when the tiny in the classroom lanza used the assault weapon to kill every child within range of his rage. >> the bushmaster was used as it was explained yesterday in the school in its entirety and the hand gun was used to. >> then he heard the vines cops approached he d what we only wish he had done first. >> his cause of death was gun
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shot wounds. his death has been ruled a suicide. >> after meeting with the families of lanza's victims in separate classrooms in the local high school the president spoke this evening in a moving interfaith vigil in the school auditorium. here now more of his remarks. >> we gather here in memory of 20 beautiful children and 6 remarkable adults. they lost their lives in a school that could have been any school in a quiet town full of good and decent people that could be any town in america. here in newtown i come to offer the love and prayers of a nation. i am very mindful that mere words cannot match the depths of your sorrow nor can they heal
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your wounded hearts. i can only hope that it helps for you to know that you are not alone in your grief. that our world, too, has been torn apart. that all across this land of ours we have wept with you. we hold our children tight. you must know that whatever measure of comfort we can provide we will provide it. whatever portion of sadness that we can share with you to ease this heavy load, whether he g d gladly bury. newtown, you are not alone. >> members of the news media had originally been given permission
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to be inside the high school at tonight's prayer vigil but ctha changed when anonymous phone call threaten to do kill everybody with a bomb presumably everybody in the building. >> any one that harasses, threatens, or intick gamidates the investigation utilizing social media of any type relative to the horrific crime will be fully investigated and prosecuted. >> the first victim 6 years old will be tomorrow at the cemetery at monroe connecticut. with more on the victims their families and the president's touching remark let's go back to new town and fox news correspondent molly lion. i heard sobbing in the background as the president was reading the names of these little victims particularly. tell us more about them.
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what have you learned now that we are in this 72-hours following this devastating horrible massacre. what more do you know? >> a tremendous amount of sadness as you mentioned, geraldo. it all began we knew v-- there would be 20 children 6 women. now that we are learning about each of them and seeing their faces it looks much more rool. take emilie parker a 6-year-old girl a big sister a big smile. her father says she was beautiful blonde and always happy. he says she was a budding artist who would spread her love through drewiawing. olivia engels they have a memorial fund filled with christmas themed photos in her memory. >> daniel barton 7 years old the youngest child of mark and
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jackie barton. he was a first grader and loved to play soccer. of the six women many are hailing as heros including a principal of sandy hook elementary dawn hochsprung who tried to stop the gunman. someone passionate about educating children and among many of the women there in that school who tried to save them. >> i notice you have greene on, i have a green tie on and the president did. greene and white is the color of the school. we ask that you wear green and white tomorrow to commemorate the lives of these young victims. how did the president's remarks play there at ground zero where this terrible across city was committed? >> understandably particularly when he was reading the names of the victims so many people in
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that room knew of them knew their family, knew them personally. so the reaction was tears and heartache and the pain auz audible in that room. those are names that -- names we hear all across america and pain wrenching for the people who have seen their faces. >> her body was found on top of a while of her children's little bodies is remembered by her family and friends. ♪ ooh baby, looks like you need a little help there ♪
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soto, lauren russo, rachel deveno and mary ann murphy. they responded in the way we hope we would respond in terrifying circumstances with courage and with love. giving their lives to protect the children in their care. >> as outrageous as the story of adam lanza's massacre is. it is not as the president said without heros. remembered tonight by the president by the thousands who blocked this night to downtown newtown connecticut. here is craig's report. >> through out sandy hook village residents have set up tables they are collecting donations for the families. these guys over here are going
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from car to car. tell me about what you are doing? >> we are just getting donations for everyone. all of the money is going directly to the families all of the victims. >> i went to sandy hook school. >> now a college student home for the holidays andrew and friends are collecting for survivors of the elementary school massacre. >> it is just terrible. i just can't believe it. >> scenes like this are echoed all over town. grief stricken residents some not much older than the victims of this tragedy making a pilgrimage to this town as presidential security teams prepare for his much anticipated speech. >> tell me what are you telling the children? >> they are telling us, telling us that people care by coming out and praying today. coming out and giving their t teddy bears and best gifts for the families. you could image the families didn't see anything today.
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the families are being told they are being cared for and loved and these kids are coming out saying that they matter. i am telling them that evil never wins. >> cardboard angels representing the deceased. christmas trees decorated with teddy bears and the victim's names attracting visitors afrom near and far. >> people from all over new england, from new york, massachusetts, coming here to pay tribute. this one naming the names of the victims including ann murray murphy a teacher who guide protecting her students. >> were you surprised her body was found in a way she was protecting the bodies of those little kids, the young lives that were taken? >> i knew that's how she was going to be found. i knew she would protect. to ann marie your kids were her kids. she would protect anybody.
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so, no, i wasn't surprised. >> dear friends michael and michelle grillo knew 52-year-old ann mary murphy for 16 years. what does she leave behind? >> a beautiful family of four children and a husband that is dedicated to her and her family. we are so sorry for their loss. >> and they are here to help. >> ann marie's family is very precious to me. they have two children that are out of college now one in college and a young daughter that is a senior in high school that is going to need the community to help and step up and stand behind her and help her as she goes through the next years. >> looking down the rough road ahead the grillos's have set up a fund to help her 18-year-old daughter who is their daughter's best friend. >> tell me what you are doing? >> i have committed to the murphy family we are going to help with their youngest daughter's college education.
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anne marie has been dedicated to the family and the community her actions were not a surprise at all. it's the fact that she would step up and try to protect the children barack obama herself is what anne marie would do. >> i know everyone is still in shock. tell me what kind of i am fact this has had on you and this community. >> like i said we are in shock. you want believe you would lose these precious lives. ann marie these children pro haven't ex peer -- who haven't experienced life yet. we need to find a way to stop the center lines. it has toned. >> to the guriloo's their precious friend was taken far too soon but anne marie's actions, her sacrifice will always be remembered. >> she is a hero.
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that gives us something to hold on to. i think that is what i am holding on to right now is that she is a hero. >> she will always be remembered that way. >> right. >> it will provide the family with a lot of comfort knowing what a hero she is. it's going to take a long time to heal these wounds. >> it will take the country a long time to heal from these wounds. this is far beyond new thoun. >> it is, he is right about that craig, ab why you will. a lot of peas people have college aged kids. she was one of the income learn hers, they set up a fund? >> it is called the finney adkinson scholarship fund. it already raised 50,000 dollars for other causes in new town now
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you have to help the family ann marie murphy you can find out more at www.benny at kin ton sounds like a good days moo me geraldo. benny axi benny golfed, gov. >> this is the 4th time the president has been called on to respond to a mass dur der. up next, we will find out from mike kobe ben what happened with that on nonmouse phone call. the president as healer in chief after this. .so as you can see, s customer satisfaction is at 97%.
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>> the shooting after the theater and tonight the president touched their hearts. >> since i have been president this is the 4th time we have come together to comfort a grieving community torn apart by mass shootings.
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fourth time we consoled survivors and fourth time we con souled the families of victims. in between there have been an endless series of dead light shootings across the country almost daily reports of victims many of them children, in small towns and big cities all across america. vic times whose much of the time their only fault was being in the wrong place at the wrong time. we can't tolerate this any more. these tragedies must end. to end them we must change. >> but exactly what are we going to change? are we going to change the gun control laws? are we going to change the entertainment industry and violent video games? are we going to change the mental health system?
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we will discuss that as the program progresses tonight. right now for more reaction let's go to mike tobin in newtown. what's your headline? what is your take away, what are you feeling? >> the headline is the atf is confirming adam lanza at one point went to a local shooting range. they are not confirming he fired any time while he was there. nancy lanza at one point visited a shooting range. that squares up with the family. individually they were at a gun range at some point for the confirming we ever went together. this is an ongoing investigation scouring more than 80 whnsed gun facility. s. he carried with him an arsenal, a bush haster ar 145 coupled up
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with high capacity magazines that were interchanged he wear idea a 6 or 9 mill merrer and a glock. a single bullet he put his in own head. the fourth victim was left out in the car in the parking lot. an important investigation. >> any idea why they didn't have any -- >> there was a talk she lived in the big house by herself. some she grew up in the country guns were part of her life. we know she went to a local boughtering hole and she took pride in that gun collection. almost as thinking why those n
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irn>> we don't know that she was asleep at the time. but the information we have coming out of the house she was in bed wearing pajamas shot four times in the head. >> in terms of the assailant as he goes in it is pretty clear now he used the ar 15 to blast the class and walk through into the school. >> that is the indication that he caulked in, he could have gone a number of directions and went to the direction of twoez two classrooms. the area was contained though the hallway and the two classes. dawn hukt tries to jump on him. >> down hook skrom.
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one was discharring rounds. so rapidly. it was a tem semi. he fired each ground he pulled the kriger. >> as the de tate this horrendous sign from pihappenin gwen. video games and mental health system. is it even remotely adequate. a lot to discuss. um...
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>> live from america's news headquarters i am marianne rafferty. they were rallying to protest the regional government's plan to privatize public healthcare. putting pressure on the government to try to find ways to save. tomorrow regional healthcare
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officers will help reps to cut spending by nearly $700 million. growing misery as the death tole there has grown more than 1,000 from the devastated mountainous coastal towns. 844 people still missing continuing into the new year. army troops police and government personnel cancelling christmas celebrations in order to help. i am marianne rafferty now back to geraldo at large for your latest headlines go to >> time for the president to stand up and lead and tell the country what to do not go to congress and say what do you guys want to do. this should be his number one agenda. he's the president of the united
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states. something like 48,000 americans will be killed with illegal guns. that is roughly the number of americans killed in the whole vietnam war. no singer law no set of laws can eliminate evil from the world or prevent every senseless act of violence in our society. that can't be an excuse for an action. in the coming weeks i will use whatever power this office holds to engage my fellow citizens from law enforcement, mental health professionals, parents and educator in an effort aimed at preventing more tragedies like this. because what choice do we have? >> what is he talking about? i mean i mentioned the need to examine our mental health system something i know about. maybe even tackle the tricky issue of the role violence video games played in the heinous
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crimes. in the meantime what do you think about my idea that we have at least one armed person either a cop or trained licensed security guard in every school over a certain size. let's ask ken trump president of the you national school safety and security services. robert a. jacks former lapd detective. here in new york with me chief mcnamara. what do you think, chief? oo we should have our eye on the irresponsibilissue. not one single with the ability to do it. is that not an option? when which looks at more school resource officers in the high school? obviously now as the violence tends to trickle down in the
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school. that's one option. >> i am talking about doing something right now. many cops during a typical weekday in newtown connecticut? >> four or five. >> why can't one cop stay in a patrol car outside of school? >> let's face it law enforcement the demands on law enforcement are increasing. when you don't have the resources to devote to one school. >> ken trump do you have an opinion on that? what do you think? >> all of the ideas starting to trickle out of washington and some of the broader things that you talked about. we have school research officers in a number of our schools. we the cops and schools program funded. it has been eliminated.
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it was eliminated and the u.s. department of education two years ago eliminated completely. they provided security equipment. i understand that hasn't been founded this year. i have to point after wondering in the last couple days like you in newtown. my question is do we need to do something new and go back to the fundamentals go back to the things there and find out why people stop that when there wasn't a crisis in the headlines. >> do you think the president has failed do you think he has earned what he got from the brady group that wants to ban assault weapons. >> i think inside the beltway failed as a whole with congress and the administration they stopped the schools all of these other programs geraldo. my thing is one again chief said one thing is not to secure it.
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they politicize it right away. take the things we know work why do we cut them and why do they allow that in the first place. my first question is to take a look at your voting record ask yourself did you vote to lum nate those resources. i am not suggesting it will be the cure but what are you taking that are useful to help them prepared. newtown had a schools grant back when it originated for a school officer, why did you allow that to go. we are a roller-coaster society public policy and public funding. if it happened today fine. 6 month down the road it falls on the back burners we scratch our heads when this happens and
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say how did it happen. i am frustrated 25 years in this business you see the same thing over and over again. we don't need a commission to figure this out. many of the things we need to do why aren't we getting it done. >> i hear you and i totally agree. we are so fickle the spotlight is on something the legislatures respond when the spotlight is on as soon as the next thing die verlts our attention the left-handers are on the hook. >> what do you think? >> geraldo first thing is the police themselves rarely would they be able to negate a situation like this by just responding. too much time goes by. >> in 90 seconds the bad guy is in there killing kids. tough stop it in the first 5 seconds. >> absolutely. >> secondly the police have limited resources. i am not quite sure that taking
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from the police with their secu current numbers. i might suggest each community would have to decide. i would have a ready pool of trained people. but you have got all of these highly decorated valued combat veterans in iraq and afghanistan who are in need of jobs. who better to protect our children than the people who protected and saved our lives on the front line. >> we have 117,000 schools in the country. we have to stop the vicious cycle where the crisis happens we talk about it for a while and then we go back to normal. every day in this country they
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are thinking safety. if the moftment is for armed people in schools -- i don't know if that's a good idea. >> i just want one, one person a superintendent, the head janitor, it could be the fizz ed teacher, it could be a uniformed security guy it could be the history teacher. just one. >> so you are not sitting ducks when you have a massacre going on. >> nobody wants to see that. that is a good debate to have. i would have to understand it better to understand the background on these people and who is going to carry the firearm. more important thing to say is we need to dialogue we can't keep having these things ap hen. former respect detect give bob jacks. >> speaker of the house john baylor just switching gears.
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>> adds we remember the 20 kids the 6 adults blamed in the school in connecticut it is hard
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to remember the fact that 17 days away from what we were talking about last week falling off the fiscal cliff. it is hardly being mentioned right now. late this afternoon word leaked in washington that the republican speaker of the house john boehner agreed to have taxes to go up for top earners from the 35-36 percent. i think it's 36 percent. only those making over 1 million a year not the 250,000 a year the president is requesting. kirsten powers fox news political analyst joins us as alice stewart republican strategist who covered the jones borough arkansas school shooting. you remember that one about 15 years ago when mike huckabee was the governor. we are here with bret baier
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earlier. you want to comment on the president's speech about the political nature of it? sounded like it was full of something you didn't know quite what. where are you going with this? >> i really have to disagree with people who call it political that you don't think you can tolerate it any more. they are saying nowhere they allow things to go on. the parents especially. >> you go hopefully saying a commission on gun violence and looking at the different things that are feeding into it whether it is mental health issues, whether it's the availability of semiautomatic weapons.
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they have mass killings and looking at the different aspects not just gun control. >> i can do without assault weapons being available to every tom, dick, harry and adam. jonesboros happens they go away and they kept ongoing back. >> there is a lot of similarities children, we saw parents struggling to find answers for this. they have similar issues with this. or shell shocked after that. i have to disagree with the person in that the president's speech was highly political. speaking from the heart as a
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father expressing his sympathies i do like what he said to what degree we can share in your pain to ease your burden. that was important. it shifted in what do we need to do here. we need to do something. hopefully it doesn't zero only in on gun control. it's not the only issue. that person said there's also the mental health issues it is very important it cannot disregard the influence of the entertainment industry in situations involving mass shootings and television and video games they have a big impact on it. a oo the boehner proposal it goes up only if you make a million or more. >> i think that that would be a great deal if that's what he is willing to do. they are on the left which is important a lot of people say what does he care? they have to get it through
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congress. the answer would be he's going to have to be responsive to that. they want to see because the president has cave the on the issue in the past in the left they want to see the tax rate going up on everybody over 250. i personally think that that is a great deal if you can get 39 percent on anybody over a million. >> me, too. >> i tell you what, i will let you respond on that. plus ladies and gentlemen there are some actually saying that hillary clinton is faking her injury to avoid testifying about benghazi gate. you will hear from a former u.n. ambassador after this. [ male announcer ] with 160 more miles per tank, the distances aren't getting shorter. ♪ the trucks are going farther. the new 2013 ram 1500.
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>> they testified she has every expectation that she will be testifying. unfortunately as you know she has already stated she will be stepping down. there are pretty good reports that senator kerry who is heading the senate foreign relations committee will be taking her spot. i fear because of the shuffle that is going on we may not be able to hear from secretary clinton on the benghazi terrorist attack. we will be a poor nation for it. >> this is a fox news alert republicans crying foul as secretary hillary clinton suffering from the aftermath of a concussion she will not be testifying about agabenghazi af all. she will be leaving after the appointment of senator john kerry to replace her. the fear of republicans is they will never get to hear secretary clinton's version of the tragic events in libya former
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ambassador to united nations richard williamson do you, is that accurate ambassador? >> i think that's an over statement. we all have to have sympathy. i think the concern is two factors have to be answered. the first time in 32 years an american ambassador was killed in a terrorist attack as well as the other americans. we have to understand why the state department failed to provide adequate security and then securitiondly it was evide the terrorist strategy of targeting killings of al qaeda has failed that al qaeda is very active in northern africa. those are the two issues. >> do you think she is lying about being sick and having a
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conclusion? >> no, i wouldn't say that. i would say that it would be inappropriate for her to leave office about ahearing before congress. there is time for that and i hope she does. >> you still think that she should and you believe her explanation of her malty and her reasons for not testifying now. >> i have no reason to question her word. what i do question is the delays of the stone walling on benghazi so long. now we have to get the story. we will have hearings this week. there will be more hearings hopefully secretary clinton will make sure she testifys to congress and the american people of the details of failure of state department security and the adequacy of policy on tearrism. >> in little rock tonight what do you think? >> i hope secretary clinton has a good note from her doctor. bad enough for the owe bam paw
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campaign to put ambassador rice on there speaking on morning shows giving them deny ability as she had nothing to do with benghazi but now we have the them asking john kerry to answer questions clinton should be doing. they misled the american people and misled the press. the truth is we have four dead americans and their families deserve to know how in the world the american government could have let this happen. >> you think in the nfl when they doo a time-out and the other people lines up in a formation that is strange and they are afraid that they are not prepared for it. some guy pulls down makes belief he hurt his ankle or something they have to pause for the stretchers to come out or the trainers to look at it? do you think this is what that is? >> i have no evidence that that is the case. i just don't think that the idea that because she has a
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concussion she is not working to cancel the trip she is not willing to testify adds up. i am sure congress is happy to rearrange have her come and testify whenever would work for her. not going to be out of work for the next couple of months. it just doesn't make sense. furthermore even if it was after she left they don't bar her from knowing how it happened and why this tragedy occurred and what the department plays in not providing to security and so forth. >> so we suspend our usual disbelief when a coincidence is convenie convenient? >> i am not going to accuse her of lying. >> me either. >> she said she fainted and has a conclusion. >> no. i believe that part. >> i just don't think she should be allowed to not testify. this is absurd this idea -- buy the idea she can't ever testify on this because she is ill
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doesn't make sense. >> so is it possible, though, you have the inauguration you have the holidays that she will never testify? >> i guess it's possible but there's no reason for it. >> they can arrange it around her schedule. >> ambassador? >> geraldo, congress will come back in session in january prior to the inaugural. presuming that the president nominates senator kerry they will be hearing the vote on that that may be done by january 20th. there will be a couple of weeks where congress is in session hopefully the secretary will understand it as part of her responsibility the american people to come up and explain why they failed in security why our strategy on terrorism is failing. >> ambassador richard williamson. finally as we end tonight's show ladies and gentlemen i want you to play a very unusual clip from
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"saturday night live". they make fun of everything and everybody. last night they were sincere and they played a very straight tribute to all of the victims of the newtown connecticut massacre. those little children. as i say good night to everybody and have a great week and please hug your children here from saturday night live. ♪ silent night ♪ holy sninight ♪ ♪ all is calm ♪ all is bright ♪ round young virgin mother and child ♪ ♪ holy infant so tender and mild ♪ ♪ sleep in heavenly peace ♪ sleep in heavenly peace
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